Dec

17

Thanksgiving menu at the Plaza Hotel, 1899.

From the NYPL collection of menus.

H. Humbert comments:

All under a dollar. Special holiday dinner for well-to-do customers. Anyone wants to make the case that those who deliberately cause deficit spending are not deranged animals? Is this price change good? Milei just said he will abolish the Fed of Argentina. Non negotiable. Of course he didn’t kill himself, I mean if there are ever any health problems in his immediate future.

Stefan Jovanovich offers:

The BW recommends Turback's book, What a Swell Party It Was!: Rediscovering Food & Drink from the Golden Age of the American Nightclub; it has menus and venues from the great age of actual fun and dancing.

William Huggins writes:

looks like every single government since the 1950s were full of "animals" - not a single one seems capable of maintaining a surplus for more than 3 years (and that was Clinton…):

United States Federal Government Budget

Andrew Aiken adds:

There was never a surplus in the 1990s, at least by the accounting principles that a business is required to use. The “surplus” was entirely due to short-term overages in payroll taxes for Social Security, and they were wasted and not used to shore up the system.

Stefan Jovanovich comments:

Since the purpose of central banking is to allow legislatures to increase their debts, is it surprising that "deficits" are now the cultural equivalent of what "sin" was in the ages when most everyone went to church? Everyone is against it, in principle, but not where principal and interest are concerned.

Larry Williams applauds:

+10 QUOTE OF THE DAY!!

William Huggins responds:

i wouldn't say the "purpose" of centrals is to enable money printing, rather I would say that's how governments prefer to use centrals but since the last of the independents were taken over by the end of WW2, that may have become an irrelevant distinction in the modern world. the main reason for pointing it out is that we could easily return to a world without state controlled centrals and their purpose would be notably quite different (usually running the payments system, think Amsterdamsche Wisselbank).

Stefan Jovanovich replies:

The Federal Reserve does not print our money; the Treasury does. In allowing its member banks to hold Federal government IOUs at par as their reserves, our central banking system effectively outlaws the pricing of all legal tender. Actual money can only be exchanged for itself, whatever the amount. The result is a wonderful inversion of monetarism as a theory. Money can be printed, without limit, but only if Congress votes to expand the supply of collateral that the banks can buy and endlessly rediscount.

William Huggins disagrees:

this is incorrect - the Fed can and does use several other assets aside from federal government debt to back its liabilities. back in 2010, they held more mortgage debt than government debt. the choice of backing asset is often dominated by gov debt but the BoJ (among others) is also sitting on corp debt (and equity for that matter)

Peter Penha writes:

I disagree and it is because of who is on the hook first. The Federal Reserve can only purchase government guaranteed debt for its account (including FNM FRE GNMA which it did in GFC and in amounts greater than existed - the w/i mtge owed the Fed at one point was around $1 trillion and at a spread below treasuries when adjusted for the embedded prepayment option by the borrower.

All the MS pledging boxes of toilet paper at the Fed window in late 2008 & the HY ETF purchases in March 2020 were against a Treasury guaranteed account at the Fed. If you care to argue that in difficult times there is no difference between Fed & Treasury as the Fed takes orders, that there is a myth of central bank independence - no argument.

The Fed now losing some $200 billion a year from it asset/liability mismatch is putting those losses against a future Treasury payments owed account - so the Fed does not need a capital call from its losses. If however the Fed decided it did need capital - that gets taken from its shareholders who are the money center / fed member banks. JPM is on the hook for Fed insolvency (or BAML and C trading below book tell you they will be forced sellers of equity below book to shore up their capital).

Perry Mehrling (the professor Zoltan wishes he had had in college) does a great history course (and free) on the hierarchy of money, and how private (CHIPS) and public (Fed Wire) clearing houses are allowed to create credit out of thin air to make up for shortfalls - guaranteed by all the other members.

Your money deposited in the bank is not money it is you extending credit to the bank and an IOU (down the tier). In normal times they all appear equal and settle normally but a Eurodollar is not the same as a dollar (see SVB dollar deposits made whole / offshore SVB deposits a general creditor (gone) as per the FDIC statement on SVB).

Stefan Jovanovich suggests:

Money and Empire: Charles P. Kindleberger and the Dollar System


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