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Spec Columns on Baseball:

11 Stock-Slugging Tips from Ted Williams 3/13/2003

Baseball's Lesson: Invest in Home Runs 7/12/2001

On baseball, strategy and the technology revolution, 6/16/2000

 

Spec Song on Baseball: "What Should I Trade?" (to the tune of "What Is a Man?" from Pal Joey)

 

Our March 13, 2003, column on Ted Williams' book, The Science of Hitting," elicited many comments:

Daniel V. Grossman,
Victor’s sagacious business partner for some 30 years, writes that the stock market has an advantage over baseball: "Call strikes count against you in baseball, while there are no call strikes in stock trading. You can be offered all kinds of interesting stock opportunities one after the other and pass them up for the one you really want to bite on, without having to worry that you'll be out on call strikes."

James Lackey:
"Well, you can sit there all game long and wait for the perfect pitch.  However, sooner or later the manager of the team or the investor in your fund is gonna say, 'What the Hades you doing sitting in cash?'

'Waiting for a good pitch sir. I did not see anything good to hit,' says the hitter.

'Well, Mr. Looking-for-a-Walk, Mr. Biggs just hit the long ball on to Waveland Avenue after the other three, and the leadoff man singled.  I can't hit in the pros and I know it; that is why I hired you. However, I can stand up here and at least look alike a hitter and go down swinging.  Please send me my funds back.  Seeing you are in cash and see nothing good to hit, I have a real estate venture that is already up 10%. Ya can't lose in real estate.'

Mike Buchsbaum:
"In my view, Daniel Grossman's view of call strikes is inaccurate. There are called strikes in investing. They are when you are caught looking and fooled by the direction and or movement of a stock and you stand pat with your portfolio on your shoulder and fail to acknowledge your mistake. The market acknowledges your mistake by decreasing the wealth count in your portfolio via marking to the market."

James Altucher:
"Different types of pitches need to be hit differently. For the fastball its important not to swing too late. For the slider, which looks like a fastball and then breaks down and to the left its important to not be fooled by the  initial movement. In the markets, a fastball occurs when a stock moves down 20% in a day from the close the day before. Perhaps there was an earnings warning, or a negative FDA announcement or maybe even an SEC investigation. Regardless, the market is throwing a fastball and the key is not to swing too late. We looked over the past year at all Nasdaq 100 stocks and what happened if you bought exactly when a stock was 20% down from the close the day before and then sold at the close. There were 96 occurrences over this past year with an expected value of 1.5% per trade. 60% of the trades had a favorable result.  A slider happens when the market is up greater than 2% one day then gaps up  at least a half a percent the next open, luring people into a mini-bull  before breaking down and to the left. A short at the open on such a gap with  a cover at the close the next day results in an average gain of 0.61% on the QQQs over the past three years. "

James Lackey
There are 3 factors for home long ball home run hitting. Pitch speed, bat speed and angle of bat. This is a simulator that factors and allows change of all speeds. A 95MPH fastball takes 4 tenths of a second to go from the pitcher to home plate at . The batter must react by 2nds of a second for a hit. Anything under is a home run ball. Anything over .2 reaction is a base it any thing over is a strike by miss according to this simulator. Major league pitcher can throw a baseball up to 95 miles per hour -- some can move it even faster. At this speed it takes about four-tenths of a second for the ball to travel the 60 feet, 6 inches from the pitcher's mound to home plate, where the batter, with muscles as tense as coiled springs, like a predatory animal about to pounce, waits for the precise moment to swing at the ball. Baseball is a game played at the edge of biological time, just within the limits of a human's ability to react. Charley Metro: "It's a very difficult thing to do, to hit a moving ball at 95 miles an hour in one-tenth of a second!"

Gregory G Dess:
Very interesting! As a Williams fan, one other thing we can learn is to focus on what's important. After all, they paid him to hit, not to pander to the press........

Jon Markman:
Most common cause of not hitting the ball correctly is a/ not reading the location or type of pitch fast enough and b/ swinging too slow. The ball comes at you in a half a second and you have two-tenths of a second decide whether to swing or not, and if so where to swing. This is why you have to practice so much as you have to read the pitch by intuition and instinct, there's not enough time to make a conscious "decision".

Steven Cole Chambers:
Great article on the hitting strategies. I would add one more rule though, timing. If you swing to early you miss and if you swing to late you miss. Being able to judge the optimal point of impact, or best entry point for a position is crucial. If the timing is off your trade will not make the expected profit.

Leonard:
What the hitter thinks doesn't matter. A great hitter knows what the pitcher is thinking. If a hitter doesn't have a good idea what the next pitch is he'll won't make it to first. Of course a good pitcher knows that also but a pitcher has a slight advantage because he knows if he has a slight blister, sore toe or hangover. The astute hitter picks up these clues. That increases his probabilities because he knows which pitch the pitcher will have a difficult time delivering. I need to judge the mood of the market since some days it might have a hangover from foreign markets, suffer data feed slowdowns, have extra cash pumped in from paychecks (bonuses were skimpy last December), etc. By knowing which pitch the market can't deliver, my chances of getting a hit increase.

Peter R. Gardiner:
Enjoyed the Science of Hitting" column very much. There is another point in the book I found very interesting on looking for the pitch with which you have trouble. Pp. 31: "If you are having a problem with a particular pitch, say a slider, a way to solve it is to always anticipate a slider. The last twelve years of my career I looked for a slider almost every pitch because I felt I could do that and still take care of the other pitches." The application here is in dealing with your own weakness(es). For example, I tend to get chopped up trading in go nowhere environments, when there is too little emotion to reverse or too fews clues about anything else to justify doing anything. Trading - often frequently - on those days leaves me exhausted, frustrated, angry, and poorer. But to approach each day as if it will be this kind, allows me to keep my expectations in check and to wait for the high fast ball to show itself. When "framing" the day in this way, the signal jumps out from the noise - when it comes - and I have more of a chance of avoiding the thousand slash death day, at the same time feeling by looking for it, I have actually accomplished something in avoidance. When I do it, it makes me feel good. (I wish I did it more.)

Dr Suresh:
Excellent article. The 11 rules are not only good for baseball hitters and stock market makers but for all gamblers. Basically aren't we all gamblers trying to make money the easy way. I am writing from India and follow your articles. Keep it up.